en: lipej-kolenik: chapter-12: c: 12 title: "Post-war times, memorial policies, “traitors”" subtitles: sequence-1: s: 1 from: "00:00:00,07" to: "00:00:04,02" text: "The main Nazis, they hid away." sequence-2: s: 2 from: "00:00:04,02" to: "00:00:08,04" text: "Back then, when the partisans were there." sequence-3: s: 3 from: "00:00:08,04" to: "00:00:15,20" text: "Some of them came back out of their holes the end of May" sequence-4: s: 4 from: "00:00:15,20" to: "00:00:23,11" text: "and for a while they were like the Stasi (secret police of East Germany)." sequence-5: s: 5 from: "00:00:23,11" to: "00:00:25,04" text: ~ sequence-6: s: 6 from: "00:00:25,04" to: "00:00:33,11" text: "Again, as time went on they showed themselves as Nazis." sequence-7: s: 7 from: "00:00:33,11" to: "00:00:40,11" text: "They believed us to be the betrayers." sequence-8: s: 8 from: "00:00:40,11" to: "00:00:42,01" text: ~ sequence-9: s: 9 from: "00:00:42,01" to: "00:00:54,18" text: "Even today the word ‘betrayer’ or ‘betrayer of freedom’ sticks to us." sequence-10: s: 10 from: "00:00:54,18" to: "00:01:05,02" text: "How can an Austrian or authority say ‘betrayer’?" sequence-11: s: 11 from: "00:01:05,02" to: "00:01:06,15" text: ~ sequence-12: s: 12 from: "00:01:06,15" to: "00:01:12,29" text: "In those days when the roll call came: “Let’s go against fascism, for Austria” – where were the people?" sequence-13: s: 13 from: "00:01:12,29" to: "00:01:20,13" text: "In Stalingrad, did they fight for Austria?" sequence-14: s: 14 from: "00:01:20,13" to: "00:01:21,20" text: ~ sequence-15: s: 15 from: "00:01:21,20" to: "00:01:34,21" text: "The ways are so different and we will never agree about what happened." sequence-16: s: 16 from: "00:01:34,21" to: "00:01:42,10" text: "We celebrate the big party and the others are the losers." sequence-17: s: 17 from: "00:01:42,10" to: "00:01:51,18" text: ~ sequence-18: s: 18 from: "00:01:51,18" to: "00:01:56,13" text: "For the ones who were members of the German ‘Wehrmacht’," sequence-19: s: 19 from: "00:01:56,13" to: "00:01:58,13" text: ~ sequence-20: s: 20 from: "00:01:58,13" to: "00:02:09,11" text: "the governor and authorities always lay down wreaths on All Saint’s Day." sequence-21: s: 21 from: "00:02:09,11" to: "00:02:12,05" text: "But never in front of a partisan’s grave." sequence-22: s: 22 from: "00:02:12,05" to: "00:02:19,19" text: "There are 53 monuments and graves of the partisans in Carinthia." sequence-23: s: 23 from: "00:02:19,19" to: "00:02:25,24" text: "Nobody ever put a wreath down – nobody, officially." sequence-24: s: 24 from: "00:02:25,24" to: "00:02:36,15" text: "And there were 50.000 deserters who were shot in Germany." sequence-25: s: 25 from: "00:02:36,15" to: "00:02:46,02" text: "Nobody remembers them either, as if there hadn’t been any." sequence-26: s: 26 from: "00:02:46,02" to: "00:02:52,22" text: "Only the one who was with Hitler up to the end was the right one." sequence-27: s: 27 from: "00:02:52,22" to: "00:02:53,27" text: ~ sequence-28: s: 28 from: "00:02:53,27" to: "00:02:57,05" text: "That was quite sad, it drags on." sequence-29: s: 29 from: "00:02:57,05" to: "00:03:03,13" text: "According to them we were all betrayers." sequence-30: s: 30 from: "00:03:03,13" to: "00:03:05,28" text: "But we did not betray Austria." sequence-31: s: 31 from: "00:03:05,28" to: "00:03:16,12" text: "Them betrayed Austria in the year of 1938 who voted for Hitler."