en: lucien-ducastel: chapter-9: c: 9 title: "Distinguishing between Germans and Nazis" subtitles: sequence-1: s: 1 from: "00:00:00,15" to: "00:00:07,19" text: "We tried to go undercover as much as possible during the German occupation," sequence-2: s: 2 from: "00:00:07,19" to: "00:00:14,06" text: "even though I was not totally undercover. I still lived with my parents." sequence-3: s: 3 from: "00:00:14,06" to: "00:00:15,26" text: ~ sequence-4: s: 4 from: "00:00:15,26" to: "00:00:21,04" text: "We thought about how we could distribute our leaflets." sequence-5: s: 5 from: "00:00:21,04" to: "00:00:31,03" text: "Our concern was the French population, not the Germans. It was necessary to fight against the occupiers." sequence-6: s: 6 from: "00:00:31,03" to: "00:00:31,29" text: ~ sequence-7: s: 7 from: "00:00:31,29" to: "00:00:41,21" text: "In the camps we met civilized, working Germans." sequence-8: s: 8 from: "00:00:41,21" to: "00:00:45,11" text: ~ sequence-9: s: 9 from: "00:00:45,11" to: "00:00:50,05" text: "Sometimes that led to discussions between us." sequence-10: s: 10 from: "00:00:50,05" to: "00:01:00,00" text: "I always defended the idea that these people were not necessarily Nazis." sequence-11: s: 11 from: "00:01:00,00" to: "00:01:07,19" text: "As French people worked, they worked here and that one had to respect." sequence-12: s: 12 from: "00:01:07,19" to: "00:01:09,27" text: ~ sequence-13: s: 13 from: "00:01:09,27" to: "00:01:16,08" text: "Then it was their responsibility. They knew who we were," sequence-14: s: 14 from: "00:01:16,08" to: "00:01:32,08" text: "in our striped uniforms and some had a friendly word for us, in German, which we had to learn." sequence-15: s: 15 from: "00:01:32,08" to: "00:01:34,07" text: ~ sequence-16: s: 16 from: "00:01:34,07" to: "00:01:45,24" text: "I always said that one should not mix up the SS and the Germans we met at work." sequence-17: s: 17 from: "00:01:45,24" to: "00:01:55,10" text: "The SS made a choice. They opted for the regime, the system." sequence-18: s: 18 from: "00:01:55,10" to: "00:02:00,05" text: ~ sequence-19: s: 19 from: "00:02:00,05" to: "00:02:10,06" text: "Three, four years after coming back I was talking to some friends who said:" sequence-20: s: 20 from: "00:02:10,06" to: "00:02:20,08" text: "“We are going to Germany, to meet some people. But of course we won’t ask you to come along.”" sequence-21: s: 21 from: "00:02:20,08" to: "00:02:31,12" text: "I said: “Why won’t you ask me to go with you? Are you afraid that I will say that all Germans are fascists?" sequence-22: s: 22 from: "00:02:31,12" to: "00:02:44,19" text: "Not way. If you want me to, I will come along. I promise I will behave correctly towards the Germans we meet." sequence-23: s: 23 from: "00:02:44,19" to: "00:02:59,02" text: "That won’t stop me from saying what happened in the camps." sequence-24: s: 24 from: "00:02:59,02" to: "00:03:05,22" text: "But I will not say THE Germans.”"