en:
  anita-malavasi:
    chapter-6:
      c: 6
      title: Questioned by fascists; Illegality
      subtitles:
        sequence-1:
          s: 1
          from: 00:00:00,11
          to: 00:00:07,17
          text: They came around a week after they had arrested them, still in August.
        sequence-2:
          s: 2
          from: 00:00:07,17
          to: 00:00:13,09
          text: I was questioned for a whole day.
        sequence-3:
          s: 3
          from: 00:00:13,09
          to: 00:00:23,17
          text: In the morning I was interrogated by the chief of UPI and by one of
            the commissioners, I think it was Dr. Cocconi.
        sequence-4:
          s: 4
          from: 00:00:23,17
          to: 00:00:28,18
          text: He was the cousin of the second-in-command
        sequence-5:
          s: 5
          from: 00:00:28,18
          to: 00:00:35,29
          text: of the central headquarters of the partisans operating in the mountains.
        sequence-6:
          s: 6
          from: 00:00:35,29
          to: 00:00:41,10
          text: I was questioned very harshly. They were accusing me.
        sequence-7:
          s: 7
          from: 00:00:41,10
          to: 00:00:44,24
          text: I was denying, claiming that I had gone there only to get some eggs,
        sequence-8:
          s: 8
          from: 00:00:44,24
          to: 00:00:51,11
          text: that a man had asked me for my ID card and I didn’t even know who
            he was.
        sequence-9:
          s: 9
          from: 00:00:51,11
          to: 00:00:54,23
          text: This went on for two or three hours.
        sequence-10:
          s: 10
          from: 00:00:54,23
          to: 00:01:01,07
          text: Then they said they were going to put me face to face with the man
            who had taken my ID card.
        sequence-11:
          s: 11
          from: 00:01:01,07
          to: 00:01:09,25
          text: They brought this man inside, he was in plain clothes but all dressed
            up, wearing a tie.
        sequence-12:
          s: 12
          from: 00:01:09,25
          to: 00:01:14,22
          text: I knew that partisans were tortured, and since he hadn’t been tortured…
        sequence-13:
          s: 13
          from: 00:01:14,22
          to: 00:01:23,15
          text: So he began to tell what I had done, saying that my brother was a
            partisan and I had gone there to pick up a gun.
        sequence-14:
          s: 14
          from: 00:01:23,15
          to: 00:01:27,21
          text: At that point I just lost the light of reason.
        sequence-15:
          s: 15
          from: 00:01:27,21
          to: 00:01:33,05
          text: 'That was my luck, since I reacted in a very aggressive way:'
        sequence-16:
          s: 16
          from: 00:01:33,05
          to: 00:01:37,04
          text: "“You’re a scoundrel, I went to pick up a gun?"
        sequence-17:
          s: 17
          from: 00:01:37,04
          to: 00:01:43,29
          text: When I got there you asked me for my ID card, you took note of my
            name,
        sequence-18:
          s: 18
          from: 00:01:43,29
          to: 00:01:51,19
          text: and as you saw I lived in Reggio, you said you knew my brother…”
        sequence-19:
          s: 19
          from: 00:01:51,19
          to: 00:01:58,17
          text: I had to say this, since my brother had already gone to the mountains,
            it could have saved me.
        sequence-20:
          s: 20
          from: 00:01:58,17
          to: 00:02:05,17
          text: "“You told me I had to bring a gun to him, but how could I say no
            to you?"
        sequence-21:
          s: 21
          from: 00:02:05,17
          to: 00:02:11,14
          text: You had a gun, I only had a basket of eggs in my hand”. I was very
            mean.
        sequence-22:
          s: 22
          from: 00:02:11,14
          to: 00:02:18,16
          text: So he said I was right, and took back what he had stated.
        sequence-23:
          s: 23
          from: 00:02:18,16
          to: 00:02:24,06
          text: They asked me to sign the minutes. I couldn’t tell what they wrote
            on it.
        sequence-24:
          s: 24
          from: 00:02:24,06
          to: 00:02:26,28
          text: My cousin and I signed.
        sequence-25:
          s: 25
          from: 00:02:26,28
          to: 00:02:34,04
          text: Then they told us we could go home, but they wanted to speak to us
            again the following morning.
        sequence-26:
          s: 26
          from: 00:02:34,04
          to: 00:02:38,15
          text: 'So I said: “Listen, I’m afraid to stay at home.'
        sequence-27:
          s: 27
          from: 00:02:38,15
          to: 00:02:47,28
          text: Every night I go to San Bartolomeo to my cousin’s, she’s the local
            fascist secretary. Can I go there?”
        sequence-28:
          s: 28
          from: 00:02:47,28
          to: 00:02:56,05
          text: 'My cousin said the same: “I usually go with her, or to my mother’s,
            would you let us go there?”'
        sequence-29:
          s: 29
          from: 00:02:56,05
          to: 00:02:58,28
          text: They told us we could.
        sequence-30:
          s: 30
          from: 00:02:58,28
          to: 00:03:05,02
          text: I got home and Mafaldo Chiessi, who was also an antifascist
        sequence-31:
          s: 31
          from: 00:03:05,02
          to: 00:03:09,21
          text: 'and in charge of communications between Reggio and Milan, told me:'
        sequence-32:
          s: 32
          from: 00:03:09,21
          to: 00:03:16,26
          text: "“Are you joking? You can’t stay here. Tomorrow they’ll torture you."
        sequence-33:
          s: 33
          from: 00:03:16,26
          to: 00:03:26,02
          text: Today was only the beginning. Things will be different tomorrow, trust
            me. Don’t think that they won’t come to get you.
        sequence-34:
          s: 34
          from: 00:03:26,02
          to: 00:03:31,16
          text: After what happened you must run away”.
        sequence-35:
          s: 35
          from: 00:03:31,16
          to: 00:03:35,08
          text: 'My poor father at some point said:'
        sequence-36:
          s: 36
          from: 00:03:35,08
          to: 00:03:40,17
          text: "“I have four children, but I have to admit I don’t know them."
        sequence-37:
          s: 37
          from: 00:03:40,17
          to: 00:03:44,17
          text: I never thought that you were…”
        sequence-38:
          s: 38
          from: 00:03:44,17
          to: 00:03:49,19
          text: That’s because we had been working in absolute secrecy.
        sequence-39:
          s: 39
          from: 00:03:49,19
          to: 00:03:57,06
          text: Even my boyfriend didn’t know what I was doing and his mother or his
            brother-in-law never told him.
        sequence-40:
          s: 40
          from: 00:03:57,06
          to: 00:04:07,08
          text: Secrecy was vital in order to survive; there was no other value but
            this.
        sequence-41:
          s: 41
          from: 00:04:07,08
          to: 00:04:10,23
          text: 'My father went on: “So now you’ll leave, too.'
        sequence-42:
          s: 42
          from: 00:04:10,23
          to: 00:04:15,24
          text: I have a son who’s been away for a year now, and I don’t know where
            he is and if he’s alive.
        sequence-43:
          s: 43
          from: 00:04:15,24
          to: 00:04:22,18
          text: As for the other one, I have had no news for the last three months.
            He came home for a while but I don’t know where he is now”.
        sequence-44:
          s: 44
          from: 00:04:22,18
          to: 00:04:26,26
          text: There was no communication with the families from the mountains to
            the valley.
        sequence-45:
          s: 45
          from: 00:04:26,26
          to: 00:04:32,26
          text: "“Now you’re going away, too, and I’ll stay home with your sister,
            a ten year old girl."
        sequence-46:
          s: 46
          from: 00:04:32,26
          to: 00:04:37,12
          text: But I think that you made the right choice.
        sequence-47:
          s: 47
          from: 00:04:37,12
          to: 00:04:47,21
          text: At least you’ll have a chance to save and defend yourself, unlike
            us who will end up like mice trapped at home.
        sequence-48:
          s: 48
          from: 00:04:47,21
          to: 00:04:52,19
          text: Just remember that your father thinks a lot of you”.
        sequence-49:
          s: 49
          from: 00:04:52,19
          to: 00:04:55,05
          text: That was what my father told me.
