European Resistance Archive/European Resistance Archive (ERA)

Yes, there were many ways of organizing this.

But nobody was doing that for free. We have to say that.

Little kids.

With girls there was no problem, but with boys, if he was circumcised, then it was a serious problem.

First of all we had to go somewhere to some village,

to get a birth certificate from a priest.

We went there with the priest, to the province around Warsaw areas, somewhere from Góra Kalwaria or Grójec.

There the birth certificates were given.

Documents were made and then without any problem you could go out with a boy or...

A lot of children taken out from the ghetto went to the monastery.

Monasteries were very helpful.

All monasteries in the Warsaw areas, I know about ten or fifteen cases, as me myself took part in it.

I was settling documents, or delivering the birth certificate or taking one to the monastery.

Because it was not that that I was taking a kid directly to a monastery, no.

I was taking it to, let us say, to Karczew and there,

in Karczew I was passing this kid to somebody else and the next person took it to the monastery.

That is why we have so many priests…

When you look at them, you can see they are Jews.

It cost a lot.

If you went to a priest, you had to put money on the tray so that he could give you a birth certificate.