European Resistance Archive/European Resistance Archive (ERA)
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I threw away the tin and started to run as fast as I could. I was skinny then and 23 years old.
I threw away the tin and started to run as fast as I could. I was skinny then and 23 years old.
e io ho buttato via la gavetta e poi sono scappato come un razzo. Ero magro... ventitrè anni. -
The soldier took out his gun and started shooting at me.
The soldier took out his gun and started shooting at me.
Son scappato e lui ha tirato fuori la maxi pistola e mi ha sparato a dietro. -
But, when I started running, a friend of mine tried to come along.
But, when I started running, a friend of mine tried to come along.
Ma dietro di me quando sono scappato mi ha inseguito un altro, un amico, uno del Genio, anche lui militare soldato -
He was hit in the thigh and fell over the tracks.
He was hit in the thigh and fell over the tracks.
e lui ha preso una scoppiettata nelle cosce ed è andato a cavalcioni nella rotaia del treno. -
The number on the arm
The number on the arm
Il numero sul braccio -
Often the children ask me why I don’t have the number removed.
Often the children ask me why I don’t have the number removed.
Molto spesso mi chiedevano perché non me lo potevo far togliere. -
I tell them, I could have it removed, but I won’t.
I tell them, I could have it removed, but I won’t.
Certo che potrei farmelo togliere, ma non lo farò -
It was done by the Nazis, the people working for the Nazis.
It was done by the Nazis, the people working for the Nazis.
perché l'hanno fatto i nazisti o della gente che lavorava per loro. -
We weren’t called by our names but by a number that we had to learn to say in German.
We weren’t called by our names but by a number that we had to learn to say in German.
È in queste condizioni che abbiamo ricevuto una matricola, non eravamo più il taI dei tali, ma un numero. -
It doesn’t bother me to have it on the arm. I don’t carry it around for advertisement. It’s just reality, that’s all.
It doesn’t bother me to have it on the arm. I don’t carry it around for advertisement. It’s just reality, that’s all.
Non mi disturba averlo sul braccio, non è per far pubblicità, è semplicemente così. Niente più. -
Distinguishing between Germans and Nazis
Distinguishing between Germans and Nazis
Fare distinzione tra tedeschi e nazisti -
We tried to go undercover as much as possible during the German occupation,
We tried to go undercover as much as possible during the German occupation,
Abbiamo vissuto l'occupazione nascondendoci il più possibile, -
even though I was not totally undercover. I still lived with my parents.
even though I was not totally undercover. I still lived with my parents.
anche se io abitavo ancora dai miei genitori. Non ero clandestino nel vero senso della parola. -
We thought about how we could distribute our leaflets.
We thought about how we could distribute our leaflets.
Ma escogitavamo un modo per distribuire i nostri volantini. -
Our concern was the French population, not the Germans. It was necessary to fight against the occupiers.
Our concern was the French population, not the Germans. It was necessary to fight against the occupiers.
Era il popolo a importarci, non i tedeschi, volevamo informare il popolo della necessità di combattere l'occupazione. -
In the camps we met civilized, working Germans.
In the camps we met civilized, working Germans.
Nei campi abbiamo incontrato dei tedeschi civili, che lavoravano. -
Sometimes that led to discussions between us.
Sometimes that led to discussions between us.
Questo alle volte ci ha portati a discutere. -
I always defended the idea that these people were not necessarily Nazis.
I always defended the idea that these people were not necessarily Nazis.
Io ho sempre difeso l'idea che queste persone non fossero per forza dei nazisti, lavoravano, -
As French people worked, they worked here and that one had to respect.
As French people worked, they worked here and that one had to respect.
Erano obbligati a lavorare come i francesi, per questo bisognava rispettarli. -
Then it was their responsibility. They knew who we were,
Then it was their responsibility. They knew who we were,
Poi era responsabilità loro, ma dal momento che erano lì con noi, sapevano cosa fossimo nelle nostre uniformi a righe.