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So, when they went at night, so they used to escape.

Everything was possible for huge amounts of money.

Those Jews from the Łódź factories, or others from banks,

they were dealing with Germans, as about 70 percent of the Germans could be bought.

And Germans quite often were transporting them…they were driving their car,

and behind them there was a car, a car from the Gestapo, and they were transporting them so that nobody could approach them in the street.

Yes, there were many ways of organizing this.

But nobody was doing that for free. We have to say that.

Little kids.

With girls there was no problem, but with boys, if he was circumcised, then it was a serious problem.

First of all we had to go somewhere to some village,

to get a birth certificate from a priest.

We went there with the priest, to the province around Warsaw areas, somewhere from Góra Kalwaria or Grójec.

There the birth certificates were given.

Documents were made and then without any problem you could go out with a boy or...

A lot of children taken out from the ghetto went to the monastery.

Monasteries were very helpful.

All monasteries in the Warsaw areas, I know about ten or fifteen cases, as me myself took part in it.

I was settling documents, or delivering the birth certificate or taking one to the monastery.

Because it was not that that I was taking a kid directly to a monastery, no.