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There were gates to get to the ghetto which were guarded by Germans.

And there Jews were dealing with Germans. I do not know how much they paid them.

Germans let the cart go into the ghetto with food

and they even escorted it to the right place as the Jewish police was worse than the Gestapo.

And then a German escorted it to the place where everything was unloaded.

Of course for bribe. They always took bribes.

I met people who had a right to enter the ghetto, who delivered firewood.

Janek M., I do not want to say his last name, he delivered firewood to the ghetto.

Coal, wood, in every cart.

He also had a big horse company, transport company as there were no cars at that time,

so under every coal or wood there was food hidden.

And if he had been kept for helping Jews...

And when we took Jews out.

So, when they went at night, so they used to escape.

Everything was possible for huge amounts of money.

Those Jews from the Łódź factories, or others from banks,

they were dealing with Germans, as about 70 percent of the Germans could be bought.

And Germans quite often were transporting them…they were driving their car,

and behind them there was a car, a car from the Gestapo, and they were transporting them so that nobody could approach them in the street.

Yes, there were many ways of organizing this.